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Report on 7-24-04 meetings and Breakthrough Celebration

 

Board Meeting Minutes

 

11:13 AM Meeting called to order

 

bulletBoard Members Present:  Bill Copeland, Jeffrey Crews, Rick Hines, Ron Lather, Jeff Page, Eddie  Simmons
bulletObservers:  Randy Bruegger, Dave Foran, Michael Hartley, Kay Hines
bulletFirst order of business Secretary position open

o        Jeffrey Crews nominated and approved as interim Secretary for the board meeting

o        Discussion on whether appointment was for remainder of previous Secretary position or for membership to vote at members meeting and would this be the start of the 2 year term.  Board decided to have an election for a 2 year term at members meeting.

 

bulletIssue of bylaws change concerning members attending meeting for a quorum to be present
bulletSomething will have to be done (no resolution).

 

bulletNo treasurer present, no report

 

bulletLast meeting minutes read

 

bulletProposed bylaws change
bulletJeff Page explained proposed bylaws change
bulletMembers may be expelled from organization by the board for conduct detrimental to the CCC
bulletBoard voted to represent this change to the membership.

 

bulletBoard activities since last meeting
bulletRandy Bruegger request for nonmember access for cave radio work approved
bulletDr. Dave Ashley was granted introductory membership however Dr. Ashley paid membership dues anyway (board was unaware when intro membership was granted)
bulletBoard approved rescue policy requiring trip leader safety/haul training.
bulletEddie Simmons and Carl Wagner attended the NSS Conservancies Forum in West Virginia
bulletReport from said trip has not been posted on the web

 

bulletMorris Hall has resigned as Geology Chairman due to health issues
bulletNo need seen to fill position just yet
bulletGoska resigned as Secretary
bulletInteresting Comments on CCC guest book, guy has a sinkhole off of BB and wants to know more

 

bulletMotion made to extend the requirement for Trip Leader Training for 90 days, motion carried

 

bulletDiscussion of expanding Carroll Cave Natural Landmark to area larger than the entrance
bulletEddie brought up that have the cave upgrade to significant Cave status opens up Federal Funding

 

bulletPhillip Moss has offered his services to help with the Hydrology et al.

 

bulletEddie has been requested to produce a report from the Conservancies Meeting
bulletEddie told of things he learned at said meeting
bulletFundraising & insurance
bulletMixed reactions from blast video
bulletEddie will try to have the report in the next week or 2

 

bulletNominating Committee
bulletRick has asked Ron Lather to join Committee and to chair it.
bulletDan Lamping has volunteer as has Mike Hartley and Bob Lerch

 

bulletBoard positions open
bulletMarty, Ron, and Carl are all up for re-appointment
bulletRick proposed a list but up of candidates for CCC membership to choose from at members meeting, write in vote allowed.  Motion made and carried.

 

bulletAccess Committee
bulletEddie wishes to resign as chairman as soon as a replacement is found
bulletJeff Page is now chairman of Access Committee
bulletEddie is now Access Committee member

 

bulletMembers to speak to the Board
bulletRandy Bruegger concerning plaque for Mike Roos
bulletRandy told story how Mike Roos lead many scouts and other groups to a cave that had a plaque inside as a memorial.  Mike always pointed the plaque out and told a story about it.  Mike’s wife thought it would be nice if Mike’s plaque was in the cave (Carroll).
bulletRandy suggested the plaque be place at the bottom to the ladder in the bed rock above the changing area.  Motion made and passed.
bulletDave has been sent on behalf of the rescue committee to report on equipment needs.  $500-$600 needed for new pulleys, hypothermia kits, first response kits, and such.  List of stuff coming.
bulletMike Hartley concerning yearly release forms and membership form
bulletPain in the rear for January trips.
bullet Discussion--Membership form needed to keep call out lists, and contact info updated--Release form needed for liability reasons.
bulletDiscussion concerning memberships not being processed in a timely manner
bulletPossible time limit for processing memberships suggested
bulletWhat are consequences for failure to process membership?
bulletTrip leader can make a non-member trip request to the board
bulletBill Gee not present bulletRandy Bruegger explained bad cables on Roos Radio, soon to be fixed bulletBill Copeland had trouble with water sample containers, has new containers, needs trip leader status

 

bulletProposed Bylaws changes
bulletMeeting changes
bulletPossible 1 meeting a year
bulletSwitch to April-October
bulletMembership electing board members
bulletDefine email voting—add time limits

 

Meeting Adjourned

 

 

 Members Meeting Minutes

 

2:07 PM Meeting Called to order

 

bullet Members Attending:  Jeff Andrews, Randy Bruegger, Bryon Carmoney, Michelle Carmoney, Heidi Carmoney (junior), Sam Clippinger, Bill Copeland, Jeffrey Crews, Terry DeFraties, David Foran, Bill Gee, Marty Griffin, Rosalie Griffin, Carolyn Hartley, Mike Hartley, Rick Hines, Kay Hines, Lawrence Ireland, Andy Isbell, Dan Isbell, Colby Johnson, Ron Lather, Andy Lerch, Bob Lerch, Michael McKinney, Jeff Page, LaDawna Simmons, Eddie Simmons, Josh Simmons (junior) Kathy Summer, Pete Witteried, Janet Witteried

 

bullet Represented by Proxy:  Bernhard Arnold, Jessie Bebb, Sama’a Djomehri, Matt Goska, Craig Hines, Chad Hines, Dan Lamping, Linda Maris, Harold Maris, Bill Pfantz

 

bullet Non Member Attending:  Lannis Hancock, Melissa Miller

 

bullet Folks introduced

 

bullet After a quick head and proxy count a quorum was present

 

bullet Rick explained the need for a new secretary and that the term would be for 2 years.

 

bullet Jeffrey Crews was unanimously elected, Whoo hoo!!

 

bullet Minutes were presented to be read however no one asked for any portion to be read.

 

bullet The Treasurer was not present, Rick stated that only small transactions have taken place

 

bullet Nominating Committee

 

bullet Ron Later placed a call for Committee members and potential Board/Officers

 

bullet Bylaws change/New version of Article V
bullet Jeff Page explained the proposed changes to the bylaws; last meeting a quorum was not present.
bullet Bylaws change approved: The Board may remove a member for cause.

 

bullet New  Board Directors
bullet Rick explained that the Board decided to present a slate of Board members for the membership elect 3 of.

§         Randy Bruegger

§         Terry DeFraties

§         Bill Gee

§         Marty Griffin

§         Mike Hartley

o        Motion was made to accept entire slate as Board members

o        Motion Seconded and Passed 18/12

 

bullet Rose Gave Treasurer’s Report

 

bullet Board Business
bullet Announced that Eddie Simmons has resigned and Jeff Page has taken over chair of the Access Committee.
bullet Randy Bruegger was granted non-member access for Cave radio work.
bulletDr. Dave Ashley was granted introductory membership however Dr. Ashley paid membership dues anyway(board was unaware when intro membership was granted)
bullet Board approved Rescue requirement and extended deadline for 90 days

 

bullet Eddie and Carl at NSS Conservancies Meeting
bullet First conservancies meeting together
bullet Lots of problems and solutions were discussed concerning insurance to fund raising.
bullet Meeting lasted from Thursday to Saturday night.
bullet 30 Conservancies represented
bullet We showed the blast video, mixed reactions.

 

bullet Bill Gee outlined the Stream Flow Project
bullet Project plans to find where the water is coming from and where it is going.
bullet Plans to work with Bio trips
bullet 3 gauging stations are set up
bullet Recent measurement includes 103 ft/s at Thunderfalls
bullet Goals-More gauging stations, develop better flow models, glean data from other cave trips
bullet Long term-automated data collection, correlate with surface weather, dye tracing.

 

bullet Survey- Bob Lerch
bullet New stats and overlays
bullet 5 miles + of survey and around 3 miles new.

 

bullet Restoration-Mike Hartley
bullet Work areas have been established and lots of work has been done
bullet Many years of work needed in some places
bullet UR-1 is closed to prevent damage to pristine areas

 

bullet Access-Jeff Page
bullet 3 policy drafts need to be synthesized
bullet Work needs done for added Gate security

 

bullet Web Page-Sam Clippinger
bullet Getting Membership Database on the Web
bullet Password protected for different accounts
bullet Making mailing list in house/not a yahoo group

 

bullet Biology-Lawrence Ireland
bullet Bio-inventories
bullet Cave fish
bullet Species ID with MDC
bullet Found a Flatworm maybe a new species
bullet Trouble finding collaboration from Academia
bullet Tried SMSU, trying MU next
bullet Dave Ashley is coming on board
bullet Specimens collected bullet Monitoring stream life bullet Monitoring graybats
bullet MDC is interested but only by Natural Entrance
bullet Maternity sites are closed in summer months(May-August)
bullet Cave Snails are abundant bullet Human Impact
bullet Using bat counts
bullet Census and random samples of several species
bullet Future Work
bullet More counts of isopods and sizes
bullet Look at bio/stream flow relationships
bullet Repeat fish counts
bullet Rescue-Terry DeFraties
bullet Two classes after meeting on haul system and safety
bullet 90 days to train trip leaders

 

bullet Entrance Hardware- Rick Hines
bullet Ladder and Cable system is in
bullet Improvements needed to rig
bullet Gibs are being procured and tested for cable
bullet Rappelling is still an option
bullet There is no CCC rope

 

bullet Cave Radio-Randy Bruegger
bullet Brass Plaque for Mike Roos will be in cave at the shaft near the changing area
bullet Cave Radio work was moderately successful, problems with radio are being fixed and a location for UL1 was found.

 

bullet Geology
bullet Morris Hall has resigned

 

bullet Water Analysis-Bill Copeland
bullet Trouble with first sample, inadequate containers
bullet New containers acquired
bullet Test will be taken 6 times a year
bullet Concerned with future development and septic systems

 

bullet School House
bullet Have a design
bullet No material or money though
bullet Project could be completed in segments as funding and time permits
bullet Will cost around $10K

 

bullet Bylaws
bullet Most things are OK
bullet Jeff is leaving it to the board to work on it.
bullet Possible proposals
bullet Members always elect directors
bullet Modify Quorum and proxy procedures(members don’t appear at meetings)
bullet Define rules for email votes
bullet Change Bylaws changes from one week board notification to membership notification

 

bullet History
bullet Gary Johnson is becoming involved

 

bullet Fund Raising
bullet Matching funds from Corporations?
bullet Look to Grottos and other cave groups.
bullet Making a calendar(we have enough photos)

 

bullet Meeting Adjourned 4:23

 Minutes provided by Jeffrey Crews, CCC Officer and Non-profit corporate Secretary

 

Dinner:

Ø      Due to rain the dinner was held at the Montreal fire station.

Ø      Special thanks to:

o        Jim Wilson and Mark Harding (firemen) for not only allowing us to use the Montreal facility but for hauling tables and chairs to Montreal for our use.

o        Greg Fry and Bruce Elliot for loaning us grills.  Greg hauled the grills and had the charcoal burning when we arrived.

o        Kay Hines for preparing the food.

 

Fireworks and party:

Ø      Special thanks to:

o        Dave McCool for working hard to provide another fantastic show with help from Dave Massy, Bob McCarthy and Marty Gillette

o        Matt Sutcliffe, president of Premier Pyrotechnics, for generous fireworks donations.

o        All that donated money to help pay for the show.  No CCC funds were used.

 

 

Rick Hines


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