Members Meeting Minutes
July 26, 2003 Mid County Fire Station, 148 North Hwy. 5, Camdenton, Mo The
meeting was called to order at 3:10 pm by Rick Hines. Members were asked to sign
the attendance sheet.
Various members, board members and guest were present. The
January 12, 2003 members meeting minutes were read in summary and unanimously
approved as read. Rick Hines announced that the June 28, 2003 Board Meeting
Minutes were available to members and the public, they can be found posted on
the CCC web site. Rick
Hines summarized the July 26, 2003 board meeting as dealing with missing survey
stations. Complete information was not made available to the board by the
survey chairman at the time of the meeting. Available information was not
adequate to complete the discussion or make a decision on how to resolve the
issue at the time.
TREASURES REPORT
Treasurer Rosalie Griffin supplied the treasures report. The current checking
balance is $3,592.68. Cash available is $155.00 and there is a total balance of
$3,747.68. The
treasurers’ long-term goal is to establish by 2004 specific categories for
income and expenses in the QuickBooks computer program. These categories would
be used in place of the current general, matching and specific use fund
categories currently being used. Rosalie would like to create a list of
re-occurring charges with contact names, numbers and addresses. She also stated
she would ask board approval for an upgrade to the current computer program to
make it more effective, and discuss possible budgets for various sections of the
organization in the future.
Donations received were from Andy Isbell for materials, Dan Isbell for materials
and Phillip Hanson for $500 a matching gift donation from IBM.
OLD BUSINESS
Member Ron Lather asked what the current status was on the sauna. Mike Hartley
spoke to this issue on behalf of Richard Cindric. The Sauna Committee is looking
into several options, but currently coming up with many dead ends.
ENTRANCE HARDWARE/SAFETY GUIDELINES Brian
Borton along with other members poured the 20 foot diameter entrance pad, and
hatches built by Richard Thompson were installed in April 2003. The hatches were
crafted to prevent accidental lock in, by way of an emergency release pin. Brian
drafted safety guidelines for the new entrance and final changes are to be
addressed by the board. Rick Hines stated additional hardware is needed for the
ladder and will discussed by the board, it may also impact the final changes to
the safety guidelines.
SURVEY Brian
Borton was elected as the new Survey Chairman at the June 28, 2003 Board Meeting
and was not in attendance to report.
ACCESS Eddie
Simmons, Access Chairman, attended and submitted a revised access policy to be
reviewed by the board. Areas 4 A-D and section I have been drafted and are to be
reviewed for changes by the board. Eddie
summarized the report supplied to the board on cave trips including number of
trips, number of visitor and request for trips. Sign
in and sign out sheets are to be modified and installed in the box by the next
Access Committee meeting. Mike
Hartley will have a stack of new release forms available in the box at the
entrance. A
policy needs to be developed on how often they will be picked up and what is to
be done with them. Eddie
asked that Matt Goska be appointed to the committee to receive incoming AC
documents, maintain, record and report on them. Mat accepted the appointment.
ACCESS/TRIP LEADERS
Member Bill Gee is now a trip leader. Half
of the current trip leaders have not met their once a year trip requirement.
Trip leaders affected will be notified shortly to meet these requirements or
loose their status on January 1, 2004.
ACCESS/MOTION AND LIGHT DETECTORS Eddie
Simmons is checking in to possible motion or light detector cameras for near the
natural entrance. Terry
Defraties volunteered to track down what is currently being used in New Mexico. Earl
Hancock advised Speleonic Magazine of the NSS is a possible resource.
ACCESS/KEY SAFE Eddie
Simmons stated at the AC meeting on April 5th 2003 the committee
discussed a need for a policy to govern cave keys. The committee is looking for
a combination safe for the entrance hatch keys, preferably one with a changeable
combination lock suitable for the back door silo or the schoolhouse. Randy
Bruegger asks, “What affect will this have on the Survey Access?”. He was
invited to voice his views and concerns at the next AC meeting to discuss the
issue.
MEMBERSHIP The
board granted an introductory membership to Sam Clippenger. He has developed a
database that will: Track
who is a member Track
who is not a member Who
has a current release of liability on file What
the member number is for cave access on the sign in/out sheet Sam
is to working on making the information available in real time for trip leaders,
so they may verify membership numbers and liability forms electronically prior
to the posted trips. All release forms and membership information should be
forwarded at this time to Sam Clippenger. Randy Bruegger request that Sam be
listed on the CCC web site. As of
July 26,2003 to be a member you must have paid your dues and a membership number
must be on file for you. Members are not official until a member number as been
assigned, this number and a current liability form must be on file and are
required information on the sign in/out sheet at the cave entrance. Trip leaders
are responsible for seeing that all trip participants meet these requirements.
RESTORATION AND CONSERVATION Mike
Hartley opened his remarks by stating that all members were welcomed and
encouraged to join the section. He summarized and supplied a conservation and
restoration report.
Restoration and conservation is working on marking trails to protect fragile
areas and common areas with reflective markers. They have already marked the
Upper Thunder River up to the Round Room and have completed two thirds of the
way to the water barrier. A new
form titled Sight and Inventory has been made for the back door entrance
report box. Mike asks the cooperation of all trip leaders in filling out the
form with any observations that would relate to the restoration section. The
forms would be retrieved at each of his restoration trip visits. The
request from the board to do a site inspection has yet to be completed due to
manpower issues. He
states that a projects task list and guidelines policy has just been developed.
Project leaders will now be assigned specific task for each trip.
BIOLOGY Bill
Gee reported on behalf of Lawrence Ireland. A copy of the report was supplied to
the board. Five
trips have been conducted mostly in Thunder River. Four species of terrestrial
invertebrates have been found. .
Cavefish, isopods and caves snails are abundant. Dr.
David Ashley hopes to visit the cave soon and help set up a study design, member
Eugene Vale has volunteered to develop an outline of priorities. And Dr. Bill
Elliott has offered to catalogue collected specimens.
Biology sections lacks manpower and equipment. Lawrence request that equipment
be purchased soon. He notes that remote sensors and data loggers would be
invaluable for long-term study.
Biology would like to focus on and place its highest priority on biota in the
high impact areas.
RESCUE Greg
Miller reported. It
has taken six months to figure out the responsible agencies for rescue and how
to compile procedures and training. The rescue pre-plan is now available for the
board. Greg recommends and encourages the CCC to notify and cooperate with
these agencies at the slightest problem. He also encourages the CCC to make
communication the next priority. He made several substantial donations of
rescue materials to start the rescue cache. Greg resigned his position at the
completion of his report.
BYLAWS Jeff
Page reported that bylaw issues could not be completed due to time constraints.
The issue of clarifying vague and ambiguous language still needs to be completed
by the committee or they will ask the board to handle it.
HISTORY Jeff
Page reported that he is working with Bill Frantz on CCC history. We are now in
possession of the Mountain Room Register from around 1975 to 1980 it will be
able to be down loaded on the web. History would like to develop an interactive
history section to the web page regarding Carroll Cave History including a form
where visitors can turn in information and stories from the past.
WEB PAGE Marty
Griffin reports that the website servers as an online history of the CCC for
reference purposes and submissions are encouraged and welcome.
GEOLOGY
Morris Hall was absent and in Texas but submitted a report via Rick Hines.
Morris will be presenting information on professional graph and overlays etc.
concerning sink holes and water chemistry at the NSS Convention. Rick Hines
gave a brief computer exhibit to the members and guest on what the graphs look
like.
Geology student Carolyn Davis a University student from Rolla contacted us and
is interested in doing remote cave sensing. Using various techniques, laying out
a grid above ground looking for seismic reflection, and other techniques to
verify cave location. Morris will help guide her.
PHOTO COMMITTEE Board
voted and approved the development of a Photo committee. Members were encourage
to consider joining the committee.
SMOKING, ALCOHOL AND HUMAN WASTE Matt
Goska researched the issue. Jeff Page reported that a proposal has been drawn up
and would be supplied to the various committees to be voted on.
CCC PUBLIC INFORMATION There
was an article written on Carroll Cave in the Springfield newspaper, based on a
phone interview with Rick Hines that had several errors in it. Also a article
written by Rick Hines for CaveDiggers.Com published in their first issue is now
available on their website Caves.Com
CAVE RADIO Randy
Bruegger reported that the family of the late Mike Roos has place in our hands
Mikes' voice cave radios to be used by the Missouri caving community. A small
monument noting the donation will be placed at the cave site in his name Randy
will research the types of monuments and cost and report to the board. Randy
will ask the board for a small budget to replace a few missing pieces and
maintain it in working order.
MORNING THANK YOU TRIPS Bill
Gee planned and organized the morning thank you trips for the one year
celebration. Nineteen people signed releases and visited the cave today. These
visitors included Trip Leaders, land owners and significant contributors to the
CCC.
501( c)3 ORGANIZATION In
December our status as the Carroll Cave Conservancy expires, and we would
normally re-file with in 90 days, however we have incorporated and now must
apply newly as Carroll Cave Conservancy, Inc. Rick Hines will take care of
filing the new application.
ADJOURN The
meeting was adjourned at 5:15 PM and all were invited to the Schoolhouse for
dinner and the fireworks celebration.
Carroll Cave Conservancy, Inc.